Vienna Prison near Gestapo Headquarters

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  1. Quidfit

    Quidfit New Member

    Anyone have any information about the Vienna prison,under the police station(?),near the Gestapo Headquarters where political prisoners were held? My father and another airman were held there after their B24 bomber was shot down on March 22,1945.
     
  2. Stoffi

    Stoffi Member

    Well asfar as i know the Gestapo headquaters Wehre at "Hotel Metropol" located at the northwest corner of schwedenplatz (now a redish Building there). At this Location they also Held politic prisoneers

    Regards Christopher
     
  3. hebbel

    hebbel Active Member

  4. Quidfit

    Quidfit New Member

    Vienna Gestapo prison-destination~Vienna

    Thank you for the replies and information thus far.
    My father said..."the interrogator was a German officer who spoke excellent English...before the war he was a former professor of English at a university."


    After the interrogation.. they were taken to a 20x20 cell that held 16 other prisoners including a former government minister,french prisoners were acting as orderlies............

    Do you think this was the main gestapo headquarters or a detention cell under a close by city police station?
    They were aided in their 4/7/1945 escape by all prisoners and 2 Austrian guards.

    They went to a hospital and asked for a woman doctor.who came down to meet them,took them to her apartment and hid them for several days until the Russians gained control of the city.

    Anyone with thoughts or information about any aspect of this????
     
  5. Quidfit

    Quidfit New Member

    Thank you for the information and reply.
     
  6. hebbel

    hebbel Active Member

    @Josef & all

    Das klingt ja jetzt wirklich mehr nach einem Polizeirevier in der Nähe. Im Zusammenhang mit der Ärztin und den beiden österreichischen Wachen/Polizisten denke ich gleich an den österreichischen Widerstand. Polizeireviere -> Stadtplan, Telefonbuch o.a. aus der Zeit?

    Die Leute vom Dokumentationsarchiv des österreichischen Widerstandes könnten ein guter Kontakt für den Threadopener sein.

    LG
    Dieter
     
  7. Luftlinie Schottenring <-> Morzinplatz
    [​IMG]

    Quelle: google maps
     
  8. hebbel

    hebbel Active Member

    @Mississippiquee
    Danke. Ich hatte es mir auch gleich angesehen. Bin ja völlig ortsfremd.:D

    @Quidfit
    One can really say close by or nearby.

    LG
    Dieter
     
  9. Stoffi

    Stoffi Member

    Bin mir da nicht so sicher, bzw im hotel de france war ein lazarett. Vielleicht sind sie dort hin.

    @quitfid: any more hints? There are a few posibilities
     
  10. josef

    josef Administrator Mitarbeiter

    Hallo Keven,
    try it with a mail to the DÖW - Dokumentationsarchiv des österreichischen Widerstandes

    e-mail: office@doew.at

    Info: http://www.doew.at/

    lg
    josef
     
  11. Quidfit

    Quidfit New Member

    Vienna prison-Destination~Vienna

    They described it as a "city police station prison-a gestapo prison"-about a 10 minute truck ride from where Sgt Dennick landed (and he landed on the roof of a hospital).They were imprisoned with about 20 others-a former government minister,a Yugoslavian doctor(with whom they also escaped),a Czech and a Romanian Officer to name a few.The Austrian guards said they had to stay due to an outbreak of typhus and they would eventually be sent to a Stalag about 30km away.
    In prison, they were given the addresses of several safe houses but eventually made their way to a "clinic" where the woman doctor worked.They had to cross a bridge ,near a park, to get over the canal.
     
  12. Stoffi

    Stoffi Member

    das Flugzeug ist am Wilhelminenberg abgestürzt und quidfit Vater ist mit dem Falschirm auf einem Spital "gelandet". Vielleicht Otto-Wagner Spital?

    lg SToffi
     
  13. St.Josef gäbs auch noch da draußen...
     
  14. koarrl

    koarrl New Member

    Welches Spitalsdach? Versuch der Rekonstruktion einer Stunde....

    Auf page 12 von MACR13121 (Casualty questionnaire von William W. Edwards)
    steht folgendes, die Flugroute erhellend:

    ... 4. What was the mission, "Bombing Vienna" ,target, "R.R. Yards" ,target time,
    "1300", altitude, "24.000", route scheduled "Base to Weng to Zwettl to Znaim", route flown "same"
    ....
    (Texte in Gänsefüßchen maschingeschrieben, Rest Formularvordruck)

    Nun.. Weng bei Admont ist wohl gemeint, der Rest der Route ist ein weiter Bogen, um sich dann Wien aus dem Norden kommend anzunähern. Der Treffer erfolgte nach Meinung des Sohnes des übelebenden Copiloten Lt. Reeher (per email), vom Augartenflakturm aus, offenbar nachdem das Ziel Bhf. Heiligenstadt bombardiert wurde. Nun.. wo gab es damals in Frage kommende Hochhäuser ungefähr auf der Linie Heiligenstadt-Wilhelminenberg?

    Weiterforschend bzw. sich jetzt mal für 2 Wochen in den Urlaub begebend

    koarrl

    Dank an Zwölfaxinger für den kompletten MACR! Du siehst, langsam fügen sich die Mosaiksteine...
     
  15. Quidfit

    Quidfit New Member

    Vienna prison-Destination~Vienna

    Yes-I went back and looked at the MACRI report again...route is as you describe..this would mean the squadron approached Vienna (from Zwetti) on a slightly southeasterly route coming in just north of the center of the city(possibly to avoid a repeat of the mistakes of the 3/12/1945 mission to Floridsdorf refinery where target was missed by 15 air seconds)
    MACRI report also indicates plane flying southeasterly to target and begins to turn to the right after "bombs away" over target and gets hit after about 30 seconds from target.

    Route was Pantanella to Weng to Zwetti to Znojno to Vienna
     
  16. zwölfaxinger

    zwölfaxinger Member

  17. Stimmt... daran hab ich gar nicht gedacht...
    Zitat:
    "Während der NS-Zeit wurden die meisten der Regimegegner von hier zum Verhör ins nur acht Häuserblöcke entfernte Gestapo-Hauptquartier im ehemaligen Hotel Metropole am Morzinplatz gebracht"
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeigebäude_Rossauer_Lände
     
  18. zwölfaxinger

    zwölfaxinger Member

    Nach meinen Wissen wurden die noch vorhandenen Insassen im Polizeigefangenhaus vor dem Abzug der Polizei freigelassen.
    Könnte somit passen.

    LG Zwölfaxinger
     
  19. koarrl

    koarrl New Member

    Die Liesl ...

    Ach ja. Kenn ma noch aus Führerscheinprüfungszeiten.

    @ our US guests: the nicknamed "Liesl" is an old casern building. The "Rossauerkaserne" built in 1865-69. An old story (who can tell if it's true?) tells that the architect commited suicide after realizing he had forgotten the toilets ...

    Zurück zum Krankenhaus und der Dachlandung: gabs im alten AKH eigentlich so hohe Gebäude?
     

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